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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
New postPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:23 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
New postPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:45 pm 
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AMC-MJ wrote:
Notice the AMC logo by the AM General ?



Yep,

because AMC created AM General.


Quick & sloppy history:

Studebaker made military trucks.
Studebaker went belly up.

Studebaker gave Kaiser it's military truck plant & contracts for a song.
Kaiser made this a division of itself called "Defense and Government Products Division" (creative, I know ;) ).

AMC bought Jeep
AMC separated 'DGPD' even further, by creating the "AM General Corporation"

Renault bought a majority share of AMC
Renault was partially owned by the French Government then (France had taken ownership, and nationalized Renault after WWII)
A foreign country (France) could not own a corporation with government contracts (atleast back then, who knows now)
AMC sold off AM General to make the feds happy.

AM General is still making military trucks.


Cliff notes:
M-715's were made ~1967-69,
AM General did not exist as a corporation till after AMC bought Jeep in 1970

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It all makes sense now:
The Spanish actually gave the Comanche their present name, using a word that comes from the Ute term Komantcia that refers to "enemy"
or more accurately to "anyone who wants to fight me all the time."


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 Post subject: Re: engine got hot today
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Pete M wrote:
jpnjim wrote:
dasbulliwagen wrote:
Pete M wrote:
bam

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MY DREAM TRUCK! I WILL have one someday. Prices are still pretty cheap, relatively speaking of course.


15 years ago there was a half dozen of these in the Want-Ad,
and even one at my corner gas station for sale,
going rate, in running condition was ~$500.

I looked at a few, then other things came up before I found the *right* one.
:doh:



see, that's not how you're supposed to do it. You're supposed to buy the first one you see, and then start looking for better ones. :yes:



I should have done that.
I was daily driving a 73 J4000 back then (granny 4spd, 4.10's & 4 wheel drums),
about the only thing worse for a daily driver would've been an M-715 (granny 4spd 5.89's & 4 wheel drums),
so I was trying to find one I could actually drive.

When they jumped to $1500-2000+ I said "I'm not gonna pay that much" :doh:

Plus by then I had started 'collecting' XJ's & MJ's. :fool:

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It all makes sense now:
The Spanish actually gave the Comanche their present name, using a word that comes from the Ute term Komantcia that refers to "enemy"
or more accurately to "anyone who wants to fight me all the time."


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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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kastein wrote:
dasbulliwagen wrote:
WOW that thing is ugly! Looks like somethingk that would kome drivingk out of old Soviet Unionk.

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WTF IS that? Some sort of horrible demented concept vehicle?

It looks like an XK, an M715, a Hummer, and some modern pickup (early 00s Ford Explorer SUT?) had a terrible accident.



The pic says 'chopartist' on it, so I guess it's a chop.

Looks kind of like a foreign J-truck attempt gone horribly wrong.

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It all makes sense now:
The Spanish actually gave the Comanche their present name, using a word that comes from the Ute term Komantcia that refers to "enemy"
or more accurately to "anyone who wants to fight me all the time."


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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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That thing is horrid looking.


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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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Yup its a hideous beast, but I bet out of all the Jeep pickups that would the one Cryco would try out :yes: :rotfl2: :rotf: :shake: :hmm:

I would drive it only because its a PU that says "Jeep" :thumbsup: and it would keep my MJ out of the salt during winter ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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I'd drive it as well. That thing would sure turn heads. :rotf: :eek: :yes:

It would be interesting to drive though.


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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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Actually now that I look closer, it seems to have a J10 or J30 ("new model name"?) badge on the quarterpanel.

Still pretty hurl-o-riffic.

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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So then did AMC do some double dipping ? Cause AMC jeep and AMC General were producing 2.5 and 5ton trucks at the same time up about 1982ish when AMG did to totale remodel of the 5ton for 83+ the Jeep body style 2.5 n 5 tons ran till 92' the AMG went till 99'/01' ish . . . Then they droprd to light humvee prodction.

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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I belive the photo says "J10" . . . It would be cool if they did a Comanche off the Dakota chassie and a J series off the RAM chassie.

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1977 Ford F350.
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2007 Honda Rubicon.

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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I might be buying an M813 5 ton truck instead of an M35 2.5 ton truck... hmmm... how did that happen :nuts: :hmm:

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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You did that because instead of buying special order split rim tune type tires of which nobody stocks don't blow one out lol

You can simply swap on a set of 11R24.5s from a junk semi and have a cheaper safer always in stock wheel/tire combo and nice S cam airbrakes instead of hydrolic weak ya may stop ya may not breaks.
Oh all your engine and drive train parts are instock and interchangable with regisle commercial trucks.

If ya wanna swap out your 250 cummins / 5spd for a 400 cummins/ 7-9spd trans with 12R24.5 tires your 5ton now dose 65mph all day long !
Now the M900s already run 65mph and have automatics even.

That's why you went to a 5ton that and 2.5tons are doggy and you can't do much to them without it being a cut chop weld project the 5ton is a bolt up n go !

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1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC/Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans Am GTA.
1995 GMC K2500 For sale.
2007 Honda Rubicon.

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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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AMC-MJ wrote:
You did that because instead of buying special order split rim tune type tires of which nobody stocks don't blow one out lol

You can simply swap on a set of 11R24.5s from a junk semi and have a cheaper safer always in stock wheel/tire combo and nice S cam airbrakes instead of hydrolic weak ya may stop ya may not breaks.
Oh all your engine and drive train parts are instock and interchangable with regisle commercial trucks.

If ya wanna swap out your 250 cummins / 5spd for a 400 cummins/ 7-9spd trans with 12R24.5 tires your 5ton now dose 65mph all day long !
Now the M900s already run 65mph and have automatics even.

That's why you went to a 5ton that and 2.5tons are doggy and you can't do much to them without it being a cut chop weld project the 5ton is a bolt up n go !

Mike

That, plus it's got a 14 foot bed... which *might* fit the MJ in the back!

If the guy accepts my offer (or we settle on another mutually acceptable counter-offer) I will be driving ten hours to southwest PA with a friend, getting it running (he says it ran great last time he had it going but it's been a few years) then driving both vehicles back. Should be a heck of an adventure.

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tetanus taco: '96 4dr XJ Sport, 4.0L/AW4/NP231, D30/C8.25, 3.5" OME (CS035RA+OME934), 33x11.5 TW ATs, OBA, OHC
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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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The beauti of Mil-Spec truck is they are more appted to run after sitting a long time versus a civillian truck.

I'd the truck fires up and runs for 30Min it'll drive around the world.


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1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC/Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans Am GTA.
1995 GMC K2500 For sale.
2007 Honda Rubicon.

AMC-MJ Build:
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 Post subject: Re: The American Motors Corporation's truck's . . .
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5ton tractor dressed up:
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all of this can be done with the Jeep body style 5ton as well, the 10 lug axles are the same bolt pattern as semi truck, the 2.5Ton only has 6 lug axles making wheel/tire combo's limited and costly to get . . .

:rock on: 5ton's :thumbsup:


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1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC/Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans Am GTA.
1995 GMC K2500 For sale.
2007 Honda Rubicon.

AMC-MJ Build:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24157

AMO#9860 !


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